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Post by leftturnlane on Aug 19, 2013 12:07:53 GMT -6
Now that racing is more than half way over for the season, how does everyone like the inverted line up? I don't like it but if i'm the only one then i'll keep my mouth shut and go along with the majority.
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Post by Townsend#128 on Aug 20, 2013 20:38:33 GMT -6
I am against it in every way. It was a pleasure this year to get to race at tracks that ran straight up. Even a half invert or pill draw would be great. I love racing at SS, but found myself looking to go other places, or finding something else to do instead of racing this year because of the invert. I know others that echo my opinion also. Hopefully they are able to vote to change this.
Steven
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Post by alwaywrong84 on Aug 20, 2013 21:00:01 GMT -6
What about this- line the HEATS up inverted point average. Features straight up off heat Finish. Benefits - the lower averages still get s chance by starting up front less cars to create chaos. Also makes heats mean something by setting feature line-up since rarely are there enough cars that you actually qualify thru the heat. In the case there is a need for a B those cars would immediately know to prepare for the B speeding up the show. Just a thought
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Post by smokingun on Aug 21, 2013 7:32:54 GMT -6
Seems to me that the car counts continue to go down. There are reasons fro that. Is this one of them? I tend to think that this rule accounts for several cars not showing up on a weekly basis. I am not a fan. It seems to be bad for business and is discouraging for new and young racers. It is certainly a bad idea for the juniors and restrictors. It stinks for the weekly cars when some good cars show up less often, start towards the front because they are farther down in points. and have a better chance for a win and affecting payouts for each car. Makes it harder to justify for a weekly car to continue to support this track.
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Post by LL47 on Aug 21, 2013 8:07:09 GMT -6
alwaywrong84 - you both make some good suggestions.
smokingun - you may be right. I have watched a number of those restrictor and jr. races and it has created some very tense starts when the 3 fast cars in the back try to move to the front on the first lap.
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Post by LL47 on Aug 21, 2013 8:12:47 GMT -6
I am against it in every way. It was a pleasure this year to get to race at tracks that ran straight up. Even a half invert or pill draw would be great. I love racing at SS, but found myself looking to go other places, or finding something else to do instead of racing this year because of the invert. I know others that echo my opinion also. Hopefully they are able to vote to change this. Steven I'm not sure who will vote on this. Seems that the leaders took it upon themsleves to spin an original rule proposal that wanted the random invert totally eliminated, and then decided that they could just change a rule to this line up. |
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Post by holy cow on Aug 21, 2013 10:18:48 GMT -6
I am against it in every way. It was a pleasure this year to get to race at tracks that ran straight up. Even a half invert or pill draw would be great. I love racing at SS, but found myself looking to go other places, or finding something else to do instead of racing this year because of the invert. I know others that echo my opinion also. Hopefully they are able to vote to change this. Steven I'm not sure who will vote on this. Seems that the leaders took it upon themsleves to spin an original rule proposal that wanted the random invert totally eliminated, and then decided that they could just change a rule to this line up. Same story different topic |
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Post by Dean on Aug 21, 2013 10:22:40 GMT -6
Thanks for the insightful response Holy Cow.
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Post by alwaywrong84 on Aug 21, 2013 17:08:08 GMT -6
Seems to me that the car counts continue to go down. There are reasons fro that. Is this one of them? I tend to think that this rule accounts for several cars not showing up on a weekly basis. I am not a fan. It seems to be bad for business and is discouraging for new and young racers. It is certainly a bad idea for the juniors and restrictors. It stinks for the weekly cars when some good cars show up less often, start towards the front because they are farther down in points. and have a better chance for a win and affecting payouts for each car. Makes it harder to justify for a weekly car to continue to support this track. |
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Post by alwaywrong84 on Aug 21, 2013 17:17:41 GMT -6
Quite tense for Jr and restrictor I agree. It is fun to watch the cars work their way from the back and does in my opinion make one a better driver and racer. As far as infrequent good cars starting toward the front it is done off point AVERAGE not total points so that would have go mean they had poor nights on their previous visit(s). Perhaps the way it was implemented is the bigger issued
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Post by Townsend#128 on Aug 21, 2013 20:30:04 GMT -6
I do not disagree that it makes for better drivers, which may be the plan for some. I do not have a desire to further my driving career past micros, have spent a lot of money, and put in a lot of time so I hopefully do not have to run in the back of the pack on most nights. I do not run for points because I have a small child and racing is less important than taking him to do things other than go to the track every weekend. The only thing I try to get out of going to a race is the self satisfaction of having a good race and maybe trying to recover some of the $80+ I spend everytime I pull into the track. So when I have the time to go racing, I am hit with a dilemma. Do I try to drive a long way to run a race where I don't have to pass 20 cars to have a chance of winning? Or, do I take my chances that I will be lucky enough to have a good car, to have a good night, survive trying to move through the pack, and maybe get my entry fee back? This is just my opinion.
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Post by jarmey76 on Aug 22, 2013 7:56:35 GMT -6
Currently the average starting position for a NW feature winner is 6.76, and I also agree that although some feel Micro Sprint racing is just a stepping stone to bigger and better things the majority of racers at SS are there to have fun and are not looking to make it to the big show. This line up is taking all the fun out of it we are racing for $100. And to be totally honest it could be done, but we have one of the worst track prep programs in the country. If the track had some prep work before the feature this lineup would be conducive to good racing. You cannot let the track get so dry that it is one lane on the bottom and expect drivers to race their way to the front every week. We are already talking about traveling next season, this line up is a big reason. The lineup has to be part of why our numbers are down, and our track prep is a big contributor to that as well.
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Post by Administrator on Sept 9, 2013 8:51:41 GMT -6
We are near the end of the season. How do you feel about this line up we are using? Will you support keeping it next year or are you voting to roll it back to the old system we had last season?
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Post by slidinsideways on Sept 11, 2013 10:40:46 GMT -6
this has to be one of the dumbest things this track has ever done. I have not talked to one racer who likes this. I'm sure a couple are out there. I would think this topic would have 50 or more responses. this is a big deal for almost everyone. A few might not care either way but i'll bet most care one way or the other. i hope we can figure out a way to change this rule back to how it was.
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Post by momma bear on Sept 12, 2013 10:27:20 GMT -6
Make a proposal!
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Post by LL47 on Sept 12, 2013 13:37:13 GMT -6
momma bear - I hope we can racers to the winter meeting when the board is voting on race schedule and line up procedures so someone can propose a change and then it get voted in.
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Post by Townsend #128 on Sept 13, 2013 9:18:19 GMT -6
This was called a procedure change when it was changed this year and did not require a rule change proposal. I turned in a proposal just in case too. |
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